Starting point
We have a delta with Debian. Some of it is legit, some of it should be upstream'ed somehow. It's hard, both for us and for others (Debian contributors, other derivatives) to make the difference, and to identify areas that need work.
Back in May, 2014, we have explained what our current delta was.
Existing data
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http://deriv.debian.net/Tails/sources.new:
- Packages we have that are not Debian.
- looks at our devel APT suite
- no room for an explanation
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http://deriv.debian.net/Tails/sources.patches:
- list of deviations from existing Debian packages
- patches we applied, they are extracted and kept up to date: useful, but no room for explanations on why these patches exist
Scripts that generated this data: https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Integration#Patches
Goals
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Enable anyone to easily find potential action items; that is: make it easy to filter what should be ignored ("legit" delta) and what should be improved.
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Visualize the evolution of a given derivative's delta with Debian
=> detect if the situation is improving or getting out of control
=> derivatives developers can be happy and proud, or react promptly; Debian contributors can evaluate how a given derivative is "nice" to Debian.
Ideas
1. Have explanations about the delta in each case
Ideally, for 3.0 (quilt) packages, compare-source-package-list
could look into debian/patches
for derivatives-specific patches,
and retrieve information from
DEP-3 headers.
For other kinds of packages, it seems that the metadata would need
to be added to some fine in the debian/
directory, possibly using
the DEP-3 format. This also would be useful to document the delta
of 3.0 (quilt) packages that is not expressed in
debian/patches
, e.g. shipping a newer upstream version
than Debian.
Paul Wise wants to "add that to the new tracker.d.o interface and associate it with the person who logged in, since what people want to see might be different".
2. Generate graphs displaying the evolution of a derivative's delta
This requires adding date/time information to at least
sources.{new,patches}
, and having some code that generates graphs
out of it. Presumably, once specified properly, this could be a great
task for someone learning programming.
Next steps
- This is being discussed in the Tracking derivatives delta: explanations, history thread on the debian-derivatives mailing list.
- Action items: tails#7607 and subtasks
Misc. ideas
One of the design goals of the new distro-tracker (the thing behind <https://tracker.debian.org/) is to help "derivatives that want to use it track/manage their divergence with Debian", as Raphaël Hertzog put it.